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Discussion in 'Archipelago' started by umaeril, Nov 14, 2003.


The Gates of Horn and Ivory

Two Gates the silent House of Sleep adorn; Of polish'd Iv'ry this, that of transparent Horn:
True Visions thro' transparent Horn arise; Thro' polish'd Iv'ry pass deluding Lies.

  1. 21007

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    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I have a hard time understanding why people kill themselves since it's not likely they are going to be able to come back anytime soon. Or at all for that matter.<hr></blockquote>

    Well, it's a way to escape a bad reality I guess (relative term here)... I don't really find it hard at all to understand - just a weak persons solution to all lifes problems (speaking of which, I belive Stalin said something like "Death solves all problems - no man, no problem." - very much truth!), I have wanted to kill myself too in the past when I still went to school and didn't like the way stuff was going, but I was too much of a pussy to do it! So.. I haven't.
     
  2. umaeril

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    Well, I wanted to kill myself at one point when things were looking badly. But I was just thinking about it a little obsessively. I was not actually going to do it. I just felt like things would be better if I did. But that was wrong thinking and I soon stopped that. I am too scared of death to ever kill myself. Unless I get demented or something. Then I hope someone will come along and put me out of my misery.
     
  3. 21007

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    well I'm like that too, I'm too scared of death. But I'm also kinda screwed cuz I'm such a weak person when it comes to deciding something. I can't even decide what shirt to wear without hitting my head against a stone wall repeatedly!! So that kind of makes it hard to like life for me.
     
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    I am the opposite... I would never consider suicide as that would be the easy way out.
     
  5. The Gov

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    There wasn't any blood - they'd thrown themselves off the bridge. It's a big bridge and it's close to the place where the Yarra River meets Port Phillip Bay, so the currents are probably strong underneath it. There was an ambulance and a police car and two police officers waiting, and a helicopter scanning the waves and an empty car parked in the emergency lane with its doors open - and a wheelchair. I'm not sure if the wheelchair belonged to the person who had jumped, or if the police were planning to put the suicidal person in it if they got them back alive.
     
  6. umaeril

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    When I saw that link Gov I thought you had taken a (macabre) photo op, but it was to an article I see. Reminds me of all the suicides off the Golden Gate Bridge. I just asked my bf and he says they have put up a chain link fence now so you cannot jump. I don't think jumping off a bridge would be my method of choice though.
     
  7. The Gov

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    No. Far too much sightseeing on the way down. Even at night you'd be able to look at the lights from the ships and houses and you'd have time to think, "Wait, I don't want to die after all," just before you hit the water.
     
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    I heard that gassing yourself was one of the best ways to do it.
     
  9. The Gov

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    I'm worried about what happens to my corpse afterwards. Reading reports on the the recent suicide bombings in Indonesia, I've noticed that the body part most usually left behind by the bomber is his head. Several different articles mention it. The torso and the hips get shattered by the explosion but the head stays behind. Soon afterwards, police officers come across it sitting on the floor as they investigate the crime scene. Very handy really: it's a pity all criminals don't leave their heads behind. It would make narrowing down the list of suspects much easier. "We're searching for a man who looks like ... this." And they show you the head. The people who manufacture identikits would go out of business. Bad for them.
     
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    Ahhahahahaha! Oh boy, first laugh of the day. Beautiful.
     
  11. umaeril

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    lol, you are so funny Gov. ^^
     
  12. The Gov

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    ... and in between investigations they could use the heads as soccer balls ...

    I submitted three world music reviews to the editors of Popmatters weeks ago and now they've emailed back and invited me to write for them. It's voluntary and unpaid, but hey, the albums are free and it'll be a buzz to have an audience. The downside is that the 'zine is based in the US and it'll take a while for my objects d'review to reach me. Never mind. I can wait.

    There's one band in particular that I'm looking forward to - well, two, the other is a group of Scandinavian folk musicians named Frigg - and that's Tsu Shi Ma Mi Re. When I saw their name on the list of albums for review I didn't know who they were, so I went searching online and came up with a few MP3s. It turns out that they're a crashy J-girl rock band who sing about babies and plums. I like 'em.
     
  13. The Gov

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    The CDs still haven't arrived but I'm already starting to worry over the quality of my reviews. I want them to be honest and I want people to enjoy reading them. How do I manage that? I'm not sure. I've been reading the work of reviewers I admire and trying to figure out what they do that makes their writing work. It seems to be a kind of easy authority combined with enthusiasm. The secret to that easy authority is a thorough knowlege of their subject. They think about it - whatever it is - and they turn it over at night and look at it from all angles, so that when it comes to writing a review, they've got all those hours of speculation to draw on for ideas. They know about other subjects as well. In The Guardian, A.S. Byatt brings Blake and Wordsworth into a discussion of flower paintings. Her comparisons deepen the review.

    (and my time at this computer is up and I'm going home now. I'll cut this short.)

    www.guardian.co.uk/arts/f...64,00.html
     
  14. The Gov

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    I'm at work. 'Scuse me for a minute -

    Dear Customers of this misbegotten heap of shit program,

    Learn your postcodes. Learn the states you live in. You are dumber than my socks. Learn to put your first name in the box marked 'First Name.' Don't put your suburb there. Put your ****ing name. The first name would be lovely but I understand that the word 'first' is beyond about eighty per cent of you, so the surname will do. Well no, it won't, but it's better than the stupid ****ing suburb. Stop ****ing up my life you useless blobs of scuffed meat.

    YOU HAVE POSTCODES. LEARN THEM.
     
  15. umaeril

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    Congrats Gov on your new position as a reviewer. I have a lot of faith in your ability to do some good writing for them! I am always amazed when you talk about things. The way you put things makes them sound so interesting and even something I have heard about before gains a fresh outlook when I read your words about it. I love your sense of humor and so will others, I just know it! Please, if you feel like it, post a review or a snippet of a review for me to read (but if you cannot do that due to copyright or something, that is ok).
     
  16. The Gov

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    Thanks Uma. I've been looking over the 'Introduce yourself' thread on Popmatters' secret reviewers' forum, and it's intimidating reading - everybody else seems to have been in bands or interviewed musicians or written for magazines or studied music - and I have not. I'll see how I go.

    I guess I could take the reviews I wrote for the submission and post them on Beyond The Sunset. As far as I know I didn't hand over any kind of copyright when I sent them in. And I can post links when something of mine appears on the site. Right now I'm still waiting on the albums.

    (Posting from work: must get back to it now.)
     
  17. umaeril

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    Oh goody, I am glad to see that I will get to read some of them. :toothy
     
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    Reviewing sounds like a good job.
     
  19. The Gov

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    It does. At the moment it feels like a Christmas with no fixed date - I wait for the presents to arrive but Santa isn't telling me his schedule.
     
  20. The Gov

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    Yesterday the magazine emailed out another list of CDs for us to pick from and I went, "Yup, yup, yup, just give me all the World ones ..." and then I sent off my request email and then I realised that I had no idea what I had just chosen. I looked at the names of the musicians and thought: who the crap are these people? I had to do a google search to find out. Turned out to be two klezmer bands and some analog accordionists from Poland.

    An online quote from the Poles:

    And the moral of today is: unthinking greed leads to obscure bands getting six hundred word reviews.
     

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