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Discussion in 'Archipelago' started by hiyayaywhopee, Nov 27, 2003.


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  1. Umaeril

    Umaeril -o-}}}X{{{-o- Staff Member

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    Ok I tried, but I am not into pop music, sorry!
     
  2. Murf

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    I guess you could call it "pop" because its not "heavy" and/or "bollywood." It won the grammy for Best Remixed Recording, Non-Classical in 2009 - Justice is a french house duo, thats it. Nobody really knows the song, though.
     
  3. Umaeril

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    It just does not remind me of music. I am being very honest with you. I can tolerate all kinds of music, but not pop, those insipid riffs, the modern and formulaic pattern of refrain chorus (bridge in the middle for 4 8beats and transition to) refrain chorus. Bollywood uses different modes and is rhythmically so beyond anything you see in pop music - they could easily have a song in 13/8 with several time changes throughout. C'mon, the Indian musical heritage is thousands of years old and pop music is decades old. It's like trying to see depth in saran wrap compared to an elaborately beaded piece of woven fabric.
     
  4. Duke

    Duke Mental Oblivion

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    lmao! Damn that musta struck a nerve.
     
  5. hiyayaywhopee

    hiyayaywhopee Huzzah?

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    I'm not disputing that Bollywood music is much more complex/much better music (honestly, I don't know a thing about it), but don't you think trivializing pop music (especially if you're one of those people who consider "pop" as "anything that doesn't fit my standards of classical music") by saying that it's only a couple decades old is oversimplifying things a tiny bit?
     
  6. Umaeril

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    I agree, pop music is not crap music because it is only decades old compared to Indian music. My reasoning was flawed, not logical. And Josef said he thought the saran wrap analogy did not work. Essentially I was being hostile to something Murf likes because I am thoughtless. So I apologize.
     
  7. Murf

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    Whatever, though, I'm not hurt; most people don't actually like a lot of the music I listen to. Generally everybody likes Justice, though (obviously excluding Uma).
     
  8. Umaeril

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    Murf, why do you like what you like? I mean, what is it about pop that you like. Is it the catchy beat maybe? Is the music? It can't be the words so I guess it has to be the music itself that you like. It is generally cheerful music from what I have heard. Maybe pop music puts one in a good mood.
     
  9. Murf

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    Couldn't tell you. Generally certain sounds and melodies put me in a certain mood, and when my music matches/enhances/puts me in the mood I want to be, then its good.

    The best is when it surprises you (new music, that is) with some cool sound that puts you right in that spot, where you just go "wow that is so cool."
     
  10. Fa Shi

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    Pop has catchy beats. As long as it's nice to listen to, it's good.

    But remember not to generalize. In any given genre, there are good songs and bad songs.

    I <3 GaGa though. Deserves to be the next pop queen icon.
     
  11. Murf

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    You say that as if she isn't already.
     
  12. Fa Shi

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    I don't think she has reached a "queen" status, but she will with her next album, I think.
     
  13. Umaeril

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    I love when that happens. Usually for some reason that happens when I am driving.
     
  14. Crazy Dave Number 23

    Crazy Dave Number 23 Methodless Madness Staff Member

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    Definitely. Even songs I had known for ten years will sometimes show up on the radio, and the chords will strike me in a certain way to be incomparably beautiful; and I do not know at all why this is.
     
  15. Umaeril

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    Me neither, it just happened with Pink Floyd the other day, the song was just so cool.
     
  16. hiyayaywhopee

    hiyayaywhopee Huzzah?

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    It takes me a while of listening to the same thing again and again to really see all of it well enough to get hit hard. Which is why I go through long periods of mostly listening to the same couple artists... right now I'm on a Built to Spill kick, and the songs are finally coming though.

    I hope this was coherent enough.
     
  17. Crazy Dave Number 23

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    It has been Floyd more often than otherwise; for example once the opening to Brain Damage. Also once there was .... Shine On You Crazy Diamond VI-IX when overtired on the long flight to Denmark. It is impossible to feel rested or sleep through a 17 to 21 hour plane ride.
     
  18. Crazy Dave Number 23

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    Another double-post. I agree with ya Nick totally.
     
  19. Umaeril

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    Same here Nick actually. I go gaga over something and have to hear it over and over to grasp it completely. That is, if it is complex.
     
  20. Crazy Dave Number 23

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    Like Rebecca Black's Friday.

    I still don't understand; better queue it up again.
     

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